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The AA Forum Talk is intended for general discussion on any topics not necessarily relating to alcoholism including: jokes, greetings, announcements, chatting back and forth, business meetings, etc., so that the meetings can stay focused on the topics.

Please check the top of the AA Forum Talk every week as this is where we will post important notices relating to the operation of the Site.

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Please comment on our meeting site, give suggestion, use it as a Group Conscience Meeting. Thank you for your comments.

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.199
Date: 12/21/2006
Time: 04:38 PM

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Hi All; I would like to extend my best wishes for all who recognize the Winter Solstice. Today is the shortest "Day" of the year and tomorrow will see the sun coming back! I would also like to extend Christmas greetings, to those who celebrate this holiday and a Happy Hanukah, to those who recognize this manner of celebration. Sobriety has given me the Gift of being able to meet people of a variety of backgrounds and Spiritual paths. What we have in common, as alcoholics, makes it possible to relate to everyone in a meeting room, with Respect. It is a festive time of year, for many people, and a stressful one, as well. I hope that all of us use the 12 Steps, 12 Traditions and work with others, in order to enjoy another Sober 24 hours. My Prayers are with all those, who have a desire to stop drinking, and to those who are working on recovery! Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Deborah
Location:
Remote Name: 69.223.45.78
Date: 12/21/2006
Time: 05:15 PM

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Hi All. I'll take the easy way out and extend the above sentiments to all. Thanks Ric. At last. The days will be getting longer. We live on a hill and watch the sun set further and further down the horizon. Now it will come up the other way till it's behind the barn in summer. We had to put our last cat to sleep last Mon. I was a basketcase all day,but he had a good life and would have been 16 on March 17th. Not bad for an outdoor cat. But it was still hard. I have many consoling friends and my husband and relatives who helped me get through it.Many joys to all whatever holiday you celebrate or not. Best in the New Year!!! Thanks Dee for the new screen. That was a surprise to see.

Firstname: Deborah
Location:
Remote Name: 69.223.45.78
Date: 12/21/2006
Time: 05:17 PM

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Forgot to say you're a great bunch of loving,caring friends!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.127.18
Date: 12/21/2006
Time: 07:05 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 21 - 2006 - LISTEN, SHARE AND PRAY - When working with a man and his family, you should take care not to participate in their quarrels. You may spoil your chance of being helpful if you do. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 100 - When trying to help a fellow alcoholic, I've given in to an impulse to give advice, and perhaps that's inevitable. But allowing others the right to be wrong reaps its own benefits. The best I can do - and it sounds easier than it is to put into practice - is to listen, share personal experience, and pray for others. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Barbara B.
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.39.23
Date: 12/22/2006
Time: 07:47 AM

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Christmas Greetings one and all!!! I see we have a new slate. Thanks to whoever is responsible. Just wanted to repeat my good wishes to all of you for a wonderful, happy, healthy, SOBER NEW YEAR. I have experienced something of a setback recently - financial, that is. A week ago today my hot water hester "went out", and since my furnace is dependent upon hot water, I had no heat. (This could not have happened in Summer, could it?) I was able to use the propane fireplace and the oven until the new unit was installed day before yesterday (to the tune of $1,600.00 - OUCH!!! Oh, well, at least I did not have to DRINK over it, and am grateful to be able to pay for it, even though it does deplete my emergency fund. The shower certainly felt good after 4 days of sponge baths. I had to think of all the peoplein the world who live under those conditions (or worse) and realize how blest I truly am. I will be heading out to a meeting shortly. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. Barb P.S. CHOPPER - you e-mailed me something yesterday and I inadvertently deleted whatever it was because I had such a stack of stuff accumulated after several days of non-cyber space attention. Can you re-send???

Firstname: Barbara B.
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.39.23
Date: 12/22/2006
Time: 07:47 AM

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Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.68.39
Date: 12/22/2006
Time: 06:06 PM

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Hi All; Barbara- I just had to repair our heating system, as well, although it was much cheaper, since I can do the work myself. I, too, wondered why it didn't break down, in summer, till I realized that we don't use our wood heating system, in summer. As we live in the bush, we often have power interuptions, so have had to make sure that we have many "back up" systems, such as a generator and a spare wood stove in the house. Right now, we have a few of the grandchildren visiting and more to come, tomorrow. We will spend Christmas Eve and Christmas Day travelling to B. C., where we will spend a couple of days, visiting my mother. I hope to attend a few face to face meetings, while on the road and in Penticton. I will continue to Pray for all those who walk with us, as well as those who will come along, at a later date. I am so very grateful to have found Sobriety, and have tried to give back some of what was freely shared with me. Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.127.18
Date: 12/22/2006
Time: 10:07 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 22 - 2006 - PRINCIPLES, NOT PERSONALITIES The way our "worthy" alcoholics have sometimes tried to judge the "less worthy" is, as we look back on it, rather comical. Imagine, if you can, one alcoholic judging another! - THE LANGUAGE OF THE HEART, p. 37 - Who am I to judge anyone? When I first entered the Fellowship I found that I liked everyone. After all, A.A. was going to help me to a better way of life without alcohol. The reality was that I couldn't possibly like everyone, nor they me. As I've grown in the Fellowship, I've learned to love everyone just from listening to what they had to say. That person over there, or the one right here, may be the one God has chosen to give me the message I need for today. I must always remember to place principles above personalities. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Sharon
Location: MI
Remote Name: 24.180.97.144
Date: 12/23/2006
Time: 04:07 PM

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Greetings gang- Sharon, alcoholic. Great to catch up on the forum. Merry Christmas to all. I took a temp position in my field for the past 4 months and I am grateful for the experience and to have all the blessings I've been granted. It's funny, by returning to work, I found that I really want to be home with my family while they're still here. I'm lucky I'm able to do that. For Christmas, we're getting the kids their passports and renewing ours since its now a requirement to enter into Canada. I've been to lots of meetings lately and we had our annual women's meeting Christmas party. It's held at our local recovery house and its always such a powerful experience. It's humbling actually, to see that I've been given the gift of sobriety. All the best for 2007! love, Sharon

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/23/2006
Time: 08:22 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 23 - 2006 - RECOVERY, UNITY, SERVICE - Our Twelfth Step - carrying the message - is the basic service that AA's Fellowship gives; this is our principal aim and the main reason for our existence. - THE LANGUAGE OF THE HEART, p. 160 - I thank God for those who came before me, those who told me not to forget the Three Legacies: Recovery, Unity and Service. In my home group, the Three Legacies were described on a sign which said: "You take a three-legged stool, try to balance it on only one leg, or two. Our Three Legacies must be kept intact. In Recovery, we get sober together; in Unity, we work together for the good of our Steps and Traditions; and through Service - we give away freely what has been given to us." One of the chief gifts of my life has been to know that I will have no message to give, unless I recover in unity with A.A. principles. OO - roo Chopper 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
Remote Name: 63.230.142.15
Date: 12/25/2006
Time: 04:02 AM

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Merry Christmas friends of Bill W. I am up early to bake pie's for desert for my ham dinner so they are freshly baked and there will still be room to use the oven later. I had a frantic phone call from a friend in the program lastnight that was at a family gathering surrounded by alcoholic beverages. I prayed The Lord's Prayer with them, and for some reason when I got to the "and lead us not into temptation" part, my next words were, but deliver (Their name) from alcohol. They were able to gracefully excuse themselves and leave the party early. I saw firsthand how this program can be put into action. I feel blessed to have this fellowship of friends during this season of Holiday "CHEER". I was doing some last minute shopping at Walmart lastnight when I noticed amid the crowds of frantic last minute shoppers a tiny display on a rack in the middle of the store. It was a lit up glass and golden ball, and within it was the manger scene, with baby Jesus in the manger. It was tiny and brilliant, and for a moment I was mesmerized. All around were people buying the latest modern gadgets to give loved ones for Christmas, and there sat the greatest gift of all. Merry Christmas!!!! May His Love for you live within, and shine for all to see! :o)God Bless! :O)Serenity

Firstname: Chopper
Location:
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/25/2006
Time: 07:40 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – December – 25 - 2006 - AT PEACE WITH LIFE - Every day is a day when we must carry the vision of God's will into all of our activities. "How can I best serve Thee - Thy will (not mine) be done." - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 85 - I read this passage each morning, to start off my day, because it is a continual reminder to "practice these principles in all my affairs." When I keep God's will at the forefront of my mind, I am able to do what I should be doing, and that puts me at peace with life, with myself and with God. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location:
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/25/2006
Time: 07:41 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 26 - 2006 - ACCEPTING SUCCESS OR FAILURE - Furthermore, how shall we come to terms with seeming failure or success? Can we now accept and adjust to either without despair or pride? Can we accept poverty, sickness, loneliness, and bereavement with courage and serenity? Can we steadfastly content ourselves with the humbler, yet sometimes more durable, satisfactions when the brighter, more glittering achievements are denied us? - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 112 - After I found A.A. and stopped drinking, it took a while before I understood why the First Step contained two parts: my powerlessness over alcohol and my life's unmanageability. In the same way, I believed for a long time that, in order to be in tune with the Twelve Steps, it was enough for me "to carry this message to alcoholics." That was rushing things. I was forgetting that there were a total of Twelve Steps and that the Twelfth Step also had more than one part. Eventually I learned that it was necessary for me to "practice these principles" in all areas of my life. In working all the Steps thoroughly, I not only stay sober and help someone else to achieve sobriety, but also I transform my difficulty with living into a joy of living. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/26/2006
Time: 05:38 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 27 - 2006 - PROBLEM SOLVING - "Quite as important was the discovery that spiritual principles would solve all my problems." - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 42 - Through the recovery process described in the Big Book, I have come to realize that the same instructions that work on my alcoholism, work on much more. Whenever I am angry or frustrated, I consider the matter a manifestation of the main problem within me, alcoholism. As I "walk" through the Steps, my difficulty is usually dealt with long before I reach the Twelfth "suggestion," and those difficulties that persist are remedied when I make an effort to carry the message to someone else. These principles do solve my problems! I have not encountered an exception, and I have been brought to a way of living which is satisfying and useful. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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Location:
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/26/2006
Time: 06:11 PM

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Babs Your email address keeps bouncing back to me as "Undelivered" ********************************************************************* This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: patchandxxxxxxx.com retry time not reached for any host after a long failure period

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/28/2006
Time: 12:11 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 28 - 2006 - SUIT UP AND SHOW UP - In A.A. we aim not only for sobriety - we try again to become citizens of the world that we rejected, and of the world that once rejected us. This is the ultimate demonstration toward which Twelfth Step work is the first but not the final step. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 21 - The old line says, "Suit up and show up." That action is so important that I like to think of it as my motto. I can choose each day to suit up and show up, or not. Showing up at meetings starts me toward feeling a part of that meeting, I can talk with newcomers, and I can share my experience; that's what credibility, honesty, and courtesy really are. Suiting up and showing up are the concrete actions I take in my ongoing return to normal living. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Barbara B
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.243.242
Date: 12/29/2006
Time: 08:12 AM

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HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! CHOPPER - My e-mail address is the same as always - patchandbarb@msn.com Have no idea why it cannot get through. Love and prayers. Barb

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/30/2006
Time: 02:14 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 29 - 2006 - THE JOY OF LIVING - . . . . therefore the joy of good living is the theme of A.A.'s Twelfth Step. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 125 - A.A. is a joyful program! Even so, I occasionally balk at taking the necessary steps to move ahead, and find myself resisting the very actions that could bring about the joy I want. I would not resist if those actions did not touch some vulnerable area of my life, an area that needs hope and fulfillment. Repeated exposure to joyfulness has a way of softening the hard, outer edges of my ego. Therein lies the power of joyfulness to help all members of A.A. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/30/2006
Time: 02:15 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS DECEMBER 30, 2006 - "HAVING HAD A SPIRITUAL AWAKENING AS THE RESULTS OF THESE STEPS, WE TRIED TO CARRY THIS MESSAGE TO ALCOHOLICS, AND TO PRACTICE THESE PRINCIPLES IN ALL OUR AFFAIRS." - PARAGRAPH 48.- These little studies of A.A.'s Twelve Steps now come to a close. We have been considering so many problems that it may appear that A.A. consist mainly of racking dilemmas and trouble shooting. To a certain extent, that is true. We have been talking about problems because we are problem people who have found a way up and out, and who with to share our knowledge of that way with all who can use it. For it is only by accepting and solving our problems that we can begin to get right with ourselves and with the world about us, and with Him who presides over us all. Understanding is the key to right principles and attitudes, and right action is the key to good living; therefore the joy of good living is the theme of A.A.'s Twelfth Step. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/30/2006
Time: 02:17 AM

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Babs your email address beats the hell outta me as well - 1 thing for sure it wil not accept my emails. OO - roo Chopper

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.215
Date: 12/30/2006
Time: 11:25 AM

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Hi All; We've just returned from BC, where I was able to attend some face to face meetings. It was very gratifying to be at a meeting, where one person had just decided to be Sober, for Christmas and not wait untill afterward. On Xmas Day, he had achieved two days without a drink. It's also nice to know that there are other human beings, with stories that are very similar to mine, as well as those who chose to come to AA who have quite different experiences, than mine. It was a struggle coming home, with windstorms and many accidents, but it is beautiful here and "there is no place like home!" Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/30/2006
Time: 07:52 PM

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You will get a kick out of this......cracked me up..... Dean Martin & Foster Brooks - Airline Pilot

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/30/2006
Time: 07:53 PM

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Sorry folks link did not work.

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/31/2006
Time: 08:34 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - DECEMBER 31 - 2006 - Daily Resolutions - The idea of "twenty-four-hour" living applies primarily to the emotional life of the individual. Emotionally speaking, we must not live in yesterday, nor in tomorrow. - As Bill Sees It, p. 284 - A New year: 12 months, 52 weeks, 365 days, 8,760 hours, 525,600 minutes--a time to consider directions, goals, and actions. I must make some plans to live a normal life, but also I must live emotionally within a twenty-four hour frame, for if I do, I don't have to make New Year's resolutions! I can make every day a New Year's day! I can decide, "Today I will do this . . . Today I will do that." Each day I can measure my life by trying to a little better, by deciding to follow God's will and making an effort to put the principles of our A.A. program into action. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 12/31/2006
Time: 10:38 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - JANUARY 1 - 2006 - "I AM A MIRACLE" - The central fact of our lives today is the absolute certainty that our Creator has entered into our hearts and lives in a way which is indeed miraculous. He has commenced to accomplish those things for us which we could never do by ourselves. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 25 - This truly is a fact in my life today, and a real miracle. I always believed in God, but could never put that belief meaningfully into my life. Today, because of Alcoholics Anonymous, I now trust and rely on God, as I understand Him; I am sober today because of that! Learning to trust and rely on God was something I could never have done alone. I now believe in miracles because I am one! OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 01/03/2007
Time: 03:08 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 2 – 2006 In sobriety all that we can expect of a spiritual awakening? No, sobriety is only a bare beginning. AS BILL SEES IT, p. 8 Practicing the A.A. program is like building a house. First I had to pour a big, thick concrete slab on which to erect the house: that, to me, was the equivalent of stopping drinking. But it’s pretty uncomfortable living on a concrete slab, unprotected and exposed to the heat,cold wind and rain. So I built a room on a slab by starting to practice the program. The first room was rickety because I wasn’t used to the work. But as time passed, as I practiced the program, I learned to build better rooms. The more I practiced, and the more I built, the more comfortable, and happy, was the home I now have to live in. Oo – roo Chopper - 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 01/03/2007
Time: 03:10 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - JANUARY 3 - 2006 - POWERLESS - We admitted we were powerless over alcohol-that our lives had become unmanageable. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 21 - It is no coincidence that the very first Step mentions powerlessness: An admission of personal powerlessness over alcohol is a cornerstone of the foundation of recovery. I've learned that I do not have the power and control I once thought I had. I am powerless over what people think about me. I am powerless over having just missed the bus. I am powerless over how other people work (or don't work) the Steps. But I've also learned I am not powerless over some things. I am not powerless over my attitudes. I am not powerless over negativity. I am not powerless over assuming responsibility for my own recovery. I have the power to exert a positive influence on myself, my loved ones, and the world in which I live. 00 - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.81
Date: 01/03/2007
Time: 06:12 PM

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Happy New Year All! The year started out fairly well, with beautiful weather and lots of company. We spent some time in BC, but came back when the weather cleared enough for us to travel. Good thing too, since avalanches have closed the main passes, only opening again, today. I would like to wish everybody a very productive and Sober New Year! Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australisa
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 01/04/2007
Time: 09:26 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 4th – 2006 BEGIN WHERE YOU ARE We feel that elimination of our drinking is but a beginning. A much more important demostration of our principles lies before us in our respective homes, occupations and affairs. ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 19 It’s usually pretty easy for me to be pleasant to the people in an A.A. setting. While I’m working to stay sober, I’m celebrating with my fellow A.A.s our common release from the hell of drinking. It’s often not so hard to spread glad tidings to my old and new friends in the program. At home or at work, though, it can be a different story. It is in situations arising in both of those areas that little day –to-day frustrations are most evident, and where it can be tough to smile or reach out with a kind word or an attentive ear. It’s outside of the A.A. rooms that I face the real test of the effectiveness of my walk through A.A’s Twelve Steps. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 01/05/2007
Time: 03:29 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - JAN 5 - 2006 - TOTAL ACCEPTANCE - He cannot picture life without alcohol. Some day he will be unable to imagine life either with alcohol or without it. Then he will know loneliness such as few do. He will be at the jumping-off place. He will wish for the end. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p.152 - Only an alcoholic can understand the exact meaning of a statement like this one. The double standard that held me captive as an active alcoholic also filled me with terror and confusion: "If I don't get a drink I'm going to die," competed with "If I continue drinking it's going to kill me." Both compulsive thoughts pushed me ever closer to the bottom. That bottom produced a total acceptance of my alcoholism - with no reservations whatsoever - and one that was absolutely essential for my recovery. It was a dilemma unlike anything I had ever faced, but as I found out later on, a necessary one if I was to succeed in this program. OO - roo Chopper 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.47.170
Date: 01/06/2007
Time: 12:02 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 6 – 2006 THE VICTORY OF SURRENDER - We perceive that only through utter defeat are we able to take our first steps toward liberation and strength. Our admission of personal powerlessness finally turns out to be firm bedrock upon which happy and purposeful lives may be built. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 21 - When alcohol influenced every facet of my life, when bottles became the symbol of all my self- indulgence and permissiveness, when I came to realise that, by myself, I could do nothing to overcome the power of alcohol, I realized I had no recourse except to surrender. In surrender I found victory – victory over my selfish self – indulgence, victory over my stubborn resistance to life as it was given to me. When I stopped fighting anybody or anything, I started on the path to sobriety, serenity and peace. Oo – roo Chopper - 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.223.133
Date: 01/07/2007
Time: 02:46 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - JAN 7 - 2006 - AT THE TURNING POINT - Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We asked His protection and care with complete abandon. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 59 - Every day I stand at turning points. My thoughts and actions can propel me toward growth or turn me down the road to old habits and to booze. Sometimes turning points are beginnings, as when I decide to start praising, instead of condemning someone. Or when I begin to ask for help instead of going it alone. At other times turning points are endings, such as when I see clearly the need to stop festering resentments or crippling self-seeking. Many shortcomings tempt me daily; therefore, I also have daily opportunities to become aware of them. In one form or another, many of my character defects appear daily: self-condemnation, anger, running away, being prideful, wanting to get even, or acting out of grandiosity. Attempting half measures to eliminate these defects merely paralyzes my efforts to change. It is only when I ask God for help, with complete abandon, that I become willing -- and able -- to change. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.223.133
Date: 01/07/2007
Time: 11:53 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 8 – 2006 - AN ACT OF PROVIDENCE - It is truly awful to admit that, glass in hand we have warped our minds into such an obsession for destructive drinking that only an act of Providence can remove it from us. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 21 - My act of Providence, { a manifestation of divine care and direction], came as I experienced the total bankruptcy of active alcoholism – everthing meaningful in my life was gone. I telephoned Alcoholics Anonymous and, from that instant, my life has never been the same. When I reflect on that very special moment, I know God was working in my life long before I was able to acknowledge and accept spiritual concepts. The glass was put down through this one act of Providence and my journey into sobriety began. My life continues to unfold with divine care and direction. Step One, in which I admitted I was powerless over alcohol, that my life had become unmanageable, takes on more meaning for me – one day at a time – in the life saving, life giving Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. Oo – roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname:
Location:
Remote Name: 203.49.223.133
Date: 01/08/2007
Time: 07:22 PM

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Sorry folks head in the clouds again - went serveral days before I noticed that my reflections were posted 2006 and should have been 2007 ha ha ha

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.223.133
Date: 01/08/2007
Time: 07:23 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - January 9 - 2007 - DO I HAVE A CHOICE? - The fact is that most alcoholics, for reasons yet obscure, have lost the power of choice in drink.Our so called will power becomes pratically nonexistent. ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p 24 - My powerless over alcohol does not cease when I quit drinking. In sobriety I still have no choice - I cant drink. The choice I do have is to pick up and use the "Kit of spiritual tools" {Alcoholics Anonymous, p. 25} When I do that, my Higher Power relives me of my lack of choice - and keeps me sober one more day. If I could choose not to pick up a drink today, where then would be my need for A.A. or a Higher Power?

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 01/09/2007
Time: 07:55 AM

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A man was at the country club for his weekly round of golf. He began his round with an eagle on the first hole and a birdie on the second. On the third hole he had just scored his first ever hole-in-one when his cell phone rang. It was a doctor notifying him that his wife had just been in a terrible accident and was in critical condition and in the ICU. The man told the doctor to inform his wife where he was and that he'd be there as soon as possible. As he hung up he realized he was leaving what was shaping up to be his best ever round of golf. He decided to get in a couple of more holes before heading to the hospital. He ended up playing all eighteen, finishing his round shooting a personal best 61, shattering the club record by five strokes and beating his previous best game by more than 10. He was jubilant.... then he remembered his wife. Feeling guilty he dashed to the hospital. He saw the doctor in the corridor and asked about his wife's condition. The doctor glared at him and shouted, "You went ahead and finished your round of golf didn't you! I hope you're proud of yourself! While you were out for the past four hours enjoying yourself at the country club your wife has been languishing in the ICU! It's just as well you went ahead and finished that round because it will be more than likely your last!" "For the rest of her life she will require 'round the clock care. And you'll be her care giver!" The man was feeling so guilty he broke down and sobbed. The doctor snickered and said, "Just screwing with you. She's dead. What'd you shoot?"

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.215
Date: 01/09/2007
Time: 12:16 PM

Comment

Hi All; Winter seems to have finally found us! It is 25 below, Celcius and a storm is on it's way, today. We were fortunate that my wife's son in law came to visit, and advised us that he has just completed a treatment program and celebrated one of the first drug and alcohol free Christmases, in a long time. This is what this fellowship is all about! Ric

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 01/09/2007
Time: 02:14 PM

Comment

25 below, Celcius !?!?!? I was standing at my daughter’s bus stop this morning complaining that it was all the way down in the 50’s Fahrenheit. Sometimes I just need to shut up. Great news about your son in law. Hope springs up around us. Richard

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.91.7
Date: 01/09/2007
Time: 09:58 PM

Comment

Hi All; Richard, it even gets better, since he came with our granddaughter, who has also chosen to take a serious look at her own drinking and has sobered up, with her father. As to our weather, we have now gotten a blizzard, which came with up to 80 km/hr winds (50 mph) and travel is not recommended for the next day or so. Being "bush" people, we have lots of fire wood and are very well prepared for this. There is a definite beauty, in the extremes that our weather comes into, which I can now fully appreciate, although I didn't see it, when still drinking. Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/10/2007
Time: 12:23 AM

Comment

Ric - great family news bro! Also glad to hear you have plenty of wood to weather out the snow Blizzard. Richard - I appreciate your sick sense of humour ha ha ha OO - roo Chopper

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
Remote Name: 63.230.142.15
Date: 01/10/2007
Time: 09:08 AM

Comment

Cool news Ric! I too have a prodigal son (20) that showed up 3 days ago admitting he has a problem with alcohol and wants to go to a meeting. Requesting prayers, as he was here 3 days and took off with buddies lastnight and didn't return. I'm doubling my alanon meetings this week! This boy has lost his job and is hitting a bottom I hope not to cushion for him. Being a mom I fear my allowing him to crash here although he is sober is enabling and thus harming him rather than helping. Praying for knowledge of God's will in this and the power to carry it out! Weather here is rather el ninio -like!!! Below zero with winds followed by a couple of 30's highs. Expecting more below zero's this weekend... Had 10 inches of snow last weekend!!! Good thing we only have to take it one day at a time!!!! http://web.icq.com/friendship/swf/0,,16961_rs,00.swf :o)Serenity

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/10/2007
Time: 10:41 PM

Comment

DALIY - REFLECTIONS - JAN 10 - 2007 - UNITED WE STAND - We learned that we had to fully concede to our innermost selves that we were alcoholics. This is the first step in recovery. The delusion that we are like other people, or presently may be, has to be smashed. - Alcoholics Anonymous, p. 30 - I came to Alcoholics Anonymous because I was no longer able to control my drinking. It was either my wife's complaining about my drinking, or maybe the sheriff forced me to go to A.A. meetings, or perhaps I knew, deep down inside, that I couldn't drink like others, but I was unwilling to admit it because the alternative terrified me. Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women united against a common, fatal disease. Each one of our lives is linked to every other, much like the survivors on a life raft at sea. If we all work together, we can get safely to shore. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time! - Peace.

Firstname:
Location:
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/10/2007
Time: 10:49 PM

Comment

Serenity - Hope the mess with your son works out for the best - all my love Chopper

Firstname: Barbara B.
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 65.54.154.146
Date: 01/11/2007
Time: 07:23 AM

Comment

Hello, dear friends. My computer has been giving me a hard time, so I have been trying to avoid it altogether. I was happy to learn from Ric and Richard that family members are opting for help. Serenity - My heart goes out to you> We "Moms" worry so about the courses our children choose and, since we can nolonger exercise any control over them (as we could when they were toddlers) we fell pretty helpless. I have practiced tucking my son under the protective wings of God (as I understand Him), especially when he was in Afghanistan, and more recently when he decided that he would buy a motorcycle. Being a former Green Beret, he is safety oriented (he took a motorcycle safety course prior to purchasing the conveyance) so it is likely that my concerns were (are) unfounded. But we Moms cannot help worrying about our kids,(mine is 41, as he sometimes reminds me) but it makes no difference, they are , and will always be, our babies. I had reason to be sad for a woman that moved here 4 months ago - she has been in and out of AA for over 20 years. She went OUT again, picked up a DUI (driving under the influence), had to surrender her license and because she has had 3 prior DUI's would have been facing jail this time. Fortunately, ther is a real terrific lawyer in one of my regular groups, and this is his branch of law. So there is a chance that he can get the court to allow her to go to a special treatmebt center in lieu of jail. We will see what develops. If this does not work out, I believe it would be due to the fact that God considers the jail time to be more in her best interest - a wake-up call. In any event, I am sure as hell glad that I don't have to deal with problems like that any more. And I don't feel at all guilty for being grateful that it is not ME. We can only help those who will help themselves, our own individual power being limited to choice over our own actions. CHOPPER - Are you able to receive my e-mails?? I sure do miss getting yours. Love and prayers for all. Barb

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.91.245
Date: 01/11/2007
Time: 08:53 PM

Comment

Hi All; Serenity-my Prayers are with your family. For what it's worth, in my own situation, my family treated me with "Tough Love" and would not bail me out or otherwise help me, until I showed them that I was serious about Sobriety. This took almost two years after I Sobered up, but we have since built up a very Loving and strong relationship. They told me that they continued to Pray for me, even though they would not even let me into their town, let alone their house. I am very glad that they took that approach, now, since I had caused a great deal of heartache and grief, when they would give me the opportunity. We are now through one of the worst storms in our history and it has settled down, but is now 35 below and getting colder tonight. I brought the dogs into the house for the night, which I only do when it is extremely cold. The storm has claimed at least three lives, of people who drove, got stuck and froze to death. I thought of myself and how I would have made every effort to feed my alcoholism, and was very lucky that I never died when travelling in bad conditions, looking for a drink. Thank you all for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/11/2007
Time: 11:48 PM

Comment

Babs - I am still receiving your emails but I always get a return message when I try to reply it has happened that many times I just gave up trying. All my love Chopper

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/11/2007
Time: 11:49 PM

Comment

DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 11th - 2007 THE 100% STEP Only Step One, where we made the 100 percent admission we were powerless over alcohol, can be practiced with absolute perfection. TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 68 Long before I was able to obtain sobriety in A.A., I knew without a doubt that alcohol was killing me, yet even with this knowledge, I was unable to stop drinking. So, when faced with Step One, I found it easy to admit that I lacked the power to not drink. But was my life unmanageable? Never! Five months after coming into A.A., I was drinking again and wondered why. Later on, back in A.A.and smarting from my wounds, I learned that Step One is the only Step that can be taken 100% And that the only way to take it 100% is to take 100% of the Step. That was many twenty – four hours ago and I haven’t had to take Step One again. Oo – roo chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: PharmACT
Location: USA
Remote Name: 221.128.136.222
Date: 01/12/2007
Time: 06:55 AM

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Firstname: Barbara B.
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.39.153
Date: 01/12/2007
Time: 07:40 AM

Comment

CHOPPER I may have found a way to allow you to get your e-mails through to me. It appears that this goofy new version of Windows thinks it has the right to decide what is and is not "junk mail". I tried to st it straight about you - who knows - I really hate this Big Brother stuff. Love, Barb

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/12/2007
Time: 07:13 PM

Comment

DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 12th – 2007 - ACCEPTING OUR PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES - Our very first problem is to accept our present circumstances as they are. This is to adopt a realistic humility without which no genuine advance can even begin. Again and again, we shall need to return to that unflattering point of departure. This is an exercise in acceptance that we can profitably practice every day of our lives. Provided we strenuously avoid turning these realistic surveys of the facts of life into unrealistic alibis for apathy or defeatism, they can be the sure foundation upon which increased emotional health and therefore spiritual progress can be built. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 44 - When I am having a difficult time accepting people, places or events, I turn to this passage and it relieves me of many an underlying fear regarding others, or situations life presents me. The thought allows me to be human and not perfect, and to regain my peace of mind. Oo – roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.212.65
Date: 01/13/2007
Time: 07:43 PM

Comment

DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 13 - 2007 - IT DOESN’T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT - We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 85 - The most common alcoholic fantasy seems to be: “If I just don’t drink, everything will be alright.” Once the fog cleared for me, I saw – for the first time – the mess my life had become. I had family, work, financial and legal problems; I was hung up on old religious ideas; there were sides of my character to which I was inclined to stay blind because they easily could have convinced me that I was hopeless and pushed me toward escape again. The BigBook guided me in resolving all of my problems. But it didn’t happen overnight – and certainly not automatically – with no effort on my part. I need always to recognise God’s mercy and blessings that smile through any problem I have to face. Oo – roo chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.91.133
Date: 01/14/2007
Time: 07:28 PM

Comment

Hi All; Last night, we went through the great equalizer, when the temperature went to 40 below zero, both Celcius and in Farenheit. I have to travel again tomorrow and hope that it warms up. I will be going a couple of hundred km north and then have to be 50 km south of here, right afterward. Hopefully, my meetings will end, in time for me to attend a face to face AA meeting, in Meadow Lake, before I have to come home. Thanks for being here for me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.109.91
Date: 01/15/2007
Time: 01:20 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 14th – 2007 NO REGRETS We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 83 - Once I became sober, I began to see how wasteful my life had been and I experienced overwhelming guilt and feelings of regret. The program’s Fourth and Fifth Steps assisted me enormously in healing those troubling regrets. I learned that my self-centeredness and dishonesty stemmed largely from my drinking and that I drank because I was an alcoholic. Now I see how even my most distasteful past experiences can turn to gold because, as a sober alcoholic, I can share them to help my fellow alcoholics, particularly newcomers. Sober for several years in A.A., I no longer regret the past; I am simply grateful to be conscious of God’s love and of the help I can give to others in the Fellowship. Oo – roo chopper P.S.1 day at a time - Peace! p.p.s. Hope your Ok Ric going out into that weather take care.

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.109.91
Date: 01/15/2007
Time: 06:58 PM

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DAILY –REFLECTIONS – January 15th – 2007 - AN UNSUSPECTED INNER RESOURCE - With few exceptions our members find that they tapped an unsuspected inner resource which they presently identify with their own conception of a Power greater than themselves. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 569 –70 - From my first days in A.A.,as I struggled for sobriety, I found hope in these words from our founders. I often pondered the phrase “they have tapped an unsuspected inner resource.” How, I asked myself, can I find the Power within myself, since I am so powerless? In time, as the founders promised, it came to me: I have always had the choice between goodness and evil, between unselfishness and selfishness, between serenity and fear. That Power greater than myself is an original gift that I did not recognize until I achieved daily sobriety through living A.A.’s Twelve Steps. Oo – roo chopper P.S.1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Barbara B.
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.39.233
Date: 01/16/2007
Time: 01:13 PM

Comment

Hello, Friends. Just have a minute. CHOPPER - Please try to e-mail me again. I issued specific instructions for the computer to NOT block anything coming from your address NO MATTER WHAT. nOT THAT MY COMPUTER PAYS ANY REAL ATTENTION TO ANY OF MY REQUESTS, BUT try. Love to all, Barb

Firstname: liverhoggg
Location: Usa
Remote Name: 207.232.25.34
Date: 01/16/2007
Time: 03:23 PM

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Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.60
Date: 01/16/2007
Time: 06:07 PM

Comment

Hi All; Yesterday was interesting, since I had to drive over 600 km, in very cold conditions, as well as attending two business meetings, in between trips. The weather has improved considerably and today was almost melting. In Saskatchewan, we say that if you plan to go outside, take four seasons worth of clothes. When I travel in winter, I always prepare, by taking an emergency kit, including tire chains, tow chain, axe, chainsaw, food, candles and other potentially necessary things, for survival. I was thinking, while driving, that travelling the trail of Sobriety, I must always take along the tools that are needed, such as Prayer, fellowship and a willingness to work with others. In these ways, I am prepared to travel the often rough trails of Sobriety as well as the northern roads. Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
Remote Name: 63.230.142.15
Date: 01/16/2007
Time: 07:56 PM

Comment

Neat Ric, thanks for the prayers and ES&H, you too Barb, and Chopper! Thought I posted earlier today but it must not have sent. Having a few computer problems again myself. Things are going well with kids. It's been very cold here too, is still below zero but supposed to warm up some they say. Starting to get used to the extra layers and it doesn't seem so cold anymore. Met with church friends today and it was a very positive experience. I do feel I have tapped into an unsuspected inner resource, and I have both God and AA to thank, plus my sponsor and the 12 steps. They are quite necessary tools for me too! God Bless! :o)Serenity

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.109.91
Date: 01/16/2007
Time: 08:04 PM

Comment

DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 16 2007 - HITTING BOTTOM - Why all this insistence that every A.A. must hit bottom first? The answer is that few people will sincerely try to practice the A.A. program unless they have hit bottom. For practicing A.A.’s remaining eleven Steps means the adoption of attitudes and actions that almost no alcoholic who is still drinking can dream of taking. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS. p. 24 - Hitting bottom opened my mind and I became willing to try something different. What I tried was A.A. My new life in the Fellowship was a little like learning how to ride a bike for the first time:A.A.became my training wheels and my supporting hand.It’s not that I wanted the help so much at the time.; I simply did not want to hurt like that again. My desire to avoid hitting bottom again was more powerful than my desire to drink. In the beginning that was what kept me sober. But after a while I found myself working the Steps to the best of my ability. I soon realized that my attitudes and actions were changing – if ever so slightly. One Day at a time. I became comfortable with myself, and with others, and my hurting started to heal. Thank God for the training wheels and supporting hand that I choose to call Alcoholics Anonymous. Oo – roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname:
Location:
Remote Name: 149.135.109.91
Date: 01/16/2007
Time: 08:07 PM

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Babs just sent 2 more emails will let you know if they are returned to me. OO - roo Chopper

Firstname:
Location:
Remote Name: 149.135.109.91
Date: 01/17/2007
Time: 02:11 AM

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Babs did you receive my 2 emails as they have not returned to me.... OO - roo Chopper

Firstname: Sharon
Location: MI
Remote Name: 24.247.227.59
Date: 01/17/2007
Time: 11:54 AM

Comment

Greetings gang- Sharon, alcoholic. Good to see the "oldtimers" checking in and sharing their ESH. My 46 y/o brother in-law died of a massive myocarial infarction, aka heart attack on Christmas eve. They should have listed the primary source of death as "Alcoholism" but they didn't. Sadly, he called us while under the influence stating that he had to "change his ways" and that he was "thinking about" going into rehab and BAM! Never got the chance....Interestingly, I've been to 16 1st step meetings since then. I just keep staying connected to the people in recovery and am getting thru this sad loss of a life. Thanks for listening folks...I'm so glad I have a chance to truly live each day one day at a time...love, Sharon

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
Remote Name: 63.230.142.15
Date: 01/17/2007
Time: 01:03 PM

Comment

So sorry Sharon. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Love, Serenity

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.109.91
Date: 01/17/2007
Time: 09:48 PM

Comment

Sorry to hear the sad news Sharon - 1 day at a time that's all we got. p.s. Babs just sent you the email. OO - roo Chopper

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.68.81
Date: 01/18/2007
Time: 08:26 AM

Comment

My Prayers are with you, Sharon. One of the hardest things that I found, in Living in Sobriety, is watching good people who have the same sickness that I am trying to deal with, continuing to live in the problem, and dying. Love Ric

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 01/18/2007
Time: 10:30 AM

Comment

Sharon… My condolences as well. My brother in law dies last year of the same thing. But he never wanted to go to meetings, and he didn’t want to stop drinking. He picked up a DUI and we were talking about the judge, it seems he had sentenced him to two AA meetings. He knew I was in AA and I asked him if he wanted to go meeting number three with me, and he declined. I never pushed it. And I went to his funeral. I really miss that stupid bastard, and I wish I had tried a bit harder. But Sharon, we can’t get them sober. That power, sadly, is not in us. Richard

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.63.147
Date: 01/18/2007
Time: 04:23 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 18 – 2007 - WOULD A DRINK HELP - By going back in our drinking histories, we could see that years before we realized it we were out of control, that our drinking even then was no mere habit, that it was indeed the beginning of a fatal progression. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p.23 - When I was still drinking, I couldn’t respond to any of life’s situations the way other, healthier, people could. The smallest incidents triggered a state of mind that believed I had to have a drink to numb my feelings. But the numbing did not improve the situation, so I sought further escape in the bottle. Today I must be aware of my alcoholism. I cannot afford to believe that I have gained control of my drinking – or again I will think I have gained control of my life. Such a feeling of control is fatal to my recovery. Oo – roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.63.147
Date: 01/19/2007
Time: 07:04 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 19 – 2007 - ROUND - THE CLOCK FAITH - Faith had to work twenty – four hours a day in and through us, or we perish. - ALCOHOLIC ANONYMOUS, p. 16 - The essence of my spirituality, and my sobriety, rests on a round - the clock faith in a Higher Power. I need to remember and rely on the God of my understanding as I pursue all of my daily activities. How comforting for me is the concept that God works in and through people. As I pause in my day, do I recall specific concrete examples of God’s presence? Am I amazed and uplifted by the number of times this power is evident? I am overwhelmed with gratitude for my God’s presence in my life of recovery. Without this omnipotent force in my every activity, I would again fall into the depths of my disease – and death. Oo – roo chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Sharon
Location: MI
Remote Name: 24.247.227.59
Date: 01/20/2007
Time: 09:17 AM

Comment

Greetings gang- Sharon, alcoholic. Thanks for your kind condolences, you guys are the best....AA has taught me to bring my difficulties out into the open and deal with them so that was my intention when I shared about my brother-in-law. Thanks for being here for me! AA teaches that all beings are the owners of their karma. Their happiness and unhappiness depend on THEIR actions and not MY wishes for them. How often we are reminded of that truth in the program and life! I think no one knows that better than the alcoholic. Take care gang. love, Sharon

Firstname: Barbara B.
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.243.161
Date: 01/20/2007
Time: 03:50 PM

Comment

Good evening friends. Had a few minutes to spend "fighting" my computer, so I thought I'd put it to good use and check into the Forum. SHARON - I am so sorry to learn of your brother-in-law's untimely demise. Richard said it all when he commented to the effect that the "power to get anyone sober is not in us." I suppose ther is somewhat of an up-side to our being made aware of the fate of so many alcoholics who neglect to seek treatment for our otherwise KILLER disease - that being a constant reminder that we keep doing the things our programs suggests, rather than believing we can rest on our so-called laurels. This is not a "been there, done that" recovery program - treatment must be ongoing. CHOPPER - I received a couple of short notes from you - look forward to more now that I seem to have managed to threaten my computer with destruction if it continues to ignore my requests. Love and prayers to all, Barb

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.63.233
Date: 01/20/2007
Time: 09:49 PM

Comment

DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 20 – 2007 - “WE PAUSE . . . AND ASK” - As we go through the day we pause. When agitated or doubtful, and ask for the right thought or action. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 87 - Today I humbly ask my Higher Power for the grace to find the space between my impulse and my action; to let flow a cooling breeze when I would respond with heat; to interrupt fierceness with gentle peace; to accept the moment which allows judgement to become discerment; to defer to silence when my tongue would rush to attack or defend. I promise to watch for every opportunity to turn toward my Higher Power for guidance. I know where this power is: it resides within me, as clear as a mountain brook, hidden in the hills – it is the unsuspected Inner Resource. I thank my Higher Power for this worls of light and truth I see when I allow it to direct my vision. I trust it today and hope it trusts me to make all effort to find the right thought or action today. Oo – roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: liverhgold
Location:
Remote Name: 207.232.25.34
Date: 01/21/2007
Time: 03:08 AM

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Location: USA
Remote Name: 201.243.54.62
Date: 01/21/2007
Time: 11:16 PM

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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.63.233
Date: 01/22/2007
Time: 12:01 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 21st – 2007 - SERVING MY BROTHER - The member talks to the newcomer not in a spirit of power but in a spirit of humility and weakness. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS COMES OF AGE p. 279 - As the days pass in A.A., I ask God to guide my thoughts and the words that I speak. In this labour of continuous participation in the Fellowship, I have numerous opportunities to speak. So I frequently ask God to help me watch over my thoughts and my words, that they may be the true and proper reflections of our program; to focus my aspirations once again to seek His guidance; to help me be truly kind and loving, helpful and healing, yet always filled with humility, and free from any trace of arrogance. Today I may very well have to deal with disagreeable attitudes or utterances – the typical stock –in-trade attitude of the still suffering alcoholic. If this should happen, I will take a moment to centre myself in God, so that I will be able to respond from a perspective of composure, strength and sensibility. Oo – roo Chopper P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.48.235
Date: 01/22/2007
Time: 05:38 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 23 - 2007 - HAVING FUN YET? - . . .we aren’t a glum lot. If newcomers could see no joy or fun in our existence, they wouldn’t want it. We absolutely insist on enjoying life. We try not to indulge in cynicism over the state of the nations, nor do we carry the world’s troubles on our shoulders. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 132 - When my own house is in order, I find the different parts of my life are more manageable. Stripped from the guilt and remorse that cloaked my drinking years, I am free to assume my proper role in the universe, but this condition requires maintenance. I should stop and ask myself, Am I having fun yet? If I find answering that question difficult or painful, perhaps I’m taking myself too seriously – and finding it difficult to admit that I’ve strayed from my practice of working the program to keep my house in order. I think the pain I experience is one way my Higher Power has to get my attention, coaxing me to take stock of my performance. The slight time and effort it takes to work the program – a spot check inventory, for example, or the making of amends, whatever is appropriate – are well worth the effort. Oo – roo Chopper P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.48.235
Date: 01/22/2007
Time: 05:42 PM

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ALCOHOLICS DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 22 – 2007 - “LETS KEEP IT SIMPLE” - A few hours later I took my leave of Dr.Bob . . . The wonderful, old, broad smile was on his face as he said almost jokingly, “Remember, Bill, Let’s not louse this thing up. Let’s keep it simple!” I turned away, unable to say a word. That was the last time I ever saw him. - ANONYMOUS COMES OF AGE, p. 214 - After years of sobriety I occasionally ask myself: “Can it be this simple?” Then, at meetings, I see former cynics and skeptics who have walked the A.A. path out of hell by packaging their lives, without alcohol, into twenty –four hour segments, during which they practice a few principles to the best of their individual abilities. And then I know again that, while it isn’t always easy, if I keep it simple, it works. Oo- roo Chopper P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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Remote Name: 149.135.48.235
Date: 01/22/2007
Time: 05:47 PM

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Sorry the reflections are the wrong way round date wise a bit like my head the morning ha ha ha OO - roo Chopper

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 01/23/2007
Time: 07:24 AM

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Warren ol' buddy, you still out there? Things are good in my neck of the woods, and I was just thinking about you. Hope this post finds you well. Richard

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.48.235
Date: 01/23/2007
Time: 09:31 PM

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Firstname: Warren C.
Location: Carolina's
Remote Name: 69.132.173.248
Date: 01/24/2007
Time: 11:30 AM

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Thanks for the thought, my friend! I miss being here and kicking things around with you daily, but a couple of people and a lot of spammers, sort of killed it for me. Wish you well my good friend.

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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.80.180
Date: 01/24/2007
Time: 10:55 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 24 – 2007 GETTING INVOLVED - There is action and more action. “Faith without works is dead.”. . . To be helpful is our only aim. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, pp. 88 – 89 - I understand that service is a vital part of recovery but I often wonder, “What can I do?” Simple start with what I have today! I look around to see where there is a need. Are the ashtrays full? Do I have hands and feet to empty them? Suddenly I’m involved! The best speaker may make the worst coffee; the member who’s best with newcomers may be unable to read; the one wiling to clean up may make a mess of the bank account – yet every one of these people and jobs is essential to an active group. The miracle of service is this: when I use what I have, I find there is more available to me than I realized before. Oo – roo chopper P.S. 1 day at a time Peace

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Firstname: Barbara B
Location: North Carolina
Remote Name: 4.136.243.254
Date: 01/25/2007
Time: 07:15 AM

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C'mon, Warren and all my other good friends. Surely we will not allow a few nut cases to prevent us from sharing our experience, strength and hope. Love to you all, and God Bless, Barb

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 01/25/2007
Time: 08:22 AM

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I'm with you Barb... I can overlook the crap. But it would be nice to be able to kill it as it shows up. As to peeing contests between folks, that they have to work out between themselves. And Warren, it’s OK that you chose not to show up here as often as you did, just show up somewhere. Don’t isolate. I think that isolation kills more of us than anything, short of resentments that is. You have a powerful message, share it somewhere ol’ buddy. Richard

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.111.125
Date: 01/26/2007
Time: 02:45 AM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 25 – 2007 - WHAT WE NEED – EACH OTHER - . . . A.A. is really saying to every serious drinker, “You are a member if you say so. . . no –body can keep you out.” - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 139 - For years, whenever I reflected on Tradition Three [“The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking”}, I thought it valuable only to newcomers. It was their guarantee that no one could bar them from A.A. Today I feel enduring gratitude for the spiritual development the Tradition has brought me. I don’t seek out people obviously different from myself. Tradition Three, concentrating on the one way I am similar to others, brought me to know and help every kind of alcoholic, just as they have helped me. Charlottte, the atheist, showed me higher standards of ethics and honor; Clay, of another race, taught me patience; Winslow, who is gay, led me by example into true compassion; Young Megan says that seeing me at meetings, sober thirty years, keeps her coming back. Tradition Three insured that we would get what we need – each other. Oo – roo chopper P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.169
Date: 01/26/2007
Time: 06:27 PM

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Hi All; I am sorry if Warren has chosen not to participate, due to my views about some of the issues that have come up, in the past. I have always looked at this forum as a "meeting after the meeting" format, which used to be common among AA members. During these after meeting coffee shop encounters, many things were discussed, often related to issues raised at the AA meeting and often general discussion, which included all who were there. These were not governed by any firm rules, but by having Respect for anyone there. There were occasions, where people would carry on personal discussions, about things that did not relate to all of the participants, but usually they would go to a more private setting to deal with these. I hope that Warren is not choosing to isolate and is continuing to attend face to face meetings, Praying and speaking to his sponsor. In my own Sobriety, I have noticed that a SLIP (when Sobriety Loses It's Priority) is more of a process, than an event. In this process, the person, at risk, will lessen their participation in meetings, cease contact with others, in Sobriety, stop Praying and asking for help from a Higher Power of their own understanding and then begin to go to places which are risky. Eventually, if this process is not stopped, the result is losing one's Sobriety. I have personally gone down this trail, since beginning to follow the AA trail, but have always chosen to return to the AA fellowship, before I made the choice to drink again. I thank the God of my own understanding for this, as well as others, in AA, who cared about me. This past week has been busy, for me, with having to spend the entire week, in Saskatoon, where I was able to meet with other people, in AA, while taking care of business. I always like taking the opportunity to attend F2F meetings and carry the messages back home with me, helping me to continue to work on getting more benefits from this life saving fellowship. Winter has returned to our region, so I will now stay home for a while, but may be going to Germany in a couple of weeks, where I hope to attend some more face to face meetings, in English. Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.87.198
Date: 01/26/2007
Time: 06:59 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 26 – 2007 - RIGOROUS HONESTY - Who wishes tb rigorously honest and tolerant? Who wants to confess his faults to another and make restitution for harm done? Who cares anything about a Higher Power, let alone meditation and prayer? Who wants to sacrifice time and energy in trying to carry A.A’s message to the next sufferer? No, the average alcoholic, self –centered in the extreme, doesn’t care for this prospect – unless he has to do these things in order to stay alive himself. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS. p. 24 - I am an alcoholic. If I drink I will die. My, what power, energy, and emotion this simple statement generates in me! But it’s really all I need to know for today. Am I willing to stay alive today? Am I willing to stay sober today? Am I willing to ask for help and am I willing to be a help to another suffering alcoholic today? Have I discovered the fatal nature of my situation? What must I do, today to stay sober. Oo –roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace! p.p.s. Hope you enjoy Germany Ric just don't mention the "WAR" ok ha ha ha p.p.p.s Warren hope your head is travelling smooth and on the AA beam and that your the only tenant inside your head living rent free.

Firstname: Lily
Location:
Remote Name: 71.61.192.125
Date: 01/27/2007
Time: 03:54 PM

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lily hi all.... I"m at an AA womens winter Jaimacian party... one of those summer in jan, things. All"s the same in a hurry though, got to work at the halfway house at midnight. Hi again,, Chopper,,, Ric etc.

Firstname: Lily
Location:
Remote Name: 71.61.192.125
Date: 01/27/2007
Time: 03:54 PM

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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.87.198
Date: 01/27/2007
Time: 04:59 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 27 - 2007 - FREEDOM FROM GUILT - Where other people were concerned, we had to drop the word “blame” from our speech and thought. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 47 - When I become willing to accept my own power- lessness, I begin to realize that blaming myself for all the trouble in my life can be an ego trip back into hopelessness. Asking for help and listening deeply to the messages inherent in the Steps and Traditions of the program make it possible to change those attitudes which delay my recovery. Before joining A.A., I had such a desire for approval from people in powerful positions that I was willing to sacrifice myself, and others, to gain a foothold in the world. I invariably came to grief. In the program I find true friends who love, understand, and care to help me learn the truth about myself. With the help of the Twelve Steps, I am able to build a better life, free of guilt and the need for self – justification. Oo –roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
Location:
Remote Name: 149.135.87.198
Date: 01/27/2007
Time: 05:00 PM

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G.day Lily great to hear from you again - much love Chopper

Firstname: Warren C.
Location: Carolina's
Remote Name: 69.132.173.248
Date: 01/28/2007
Time: 02:57 PM

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"I hope that Warren is not choosing to isolate and is continuing to attend face to face meetings, Praying and speaking to his sponsor." ##### Ric, I was the person that requested for the return of you "Old-Timers" to this site. About a week later, you were the only one that responded and told us why you chose to stay away. You sited such things as: people posting matters that were not necessarily related to alcoholism and you are subject to dial-up Internet-service and your page loaded very slow. First let me answer your question: Because of my limited physical condition, this site was my only source to continued recovery. Secondly, my suggestion of you switching to the other pages where the RULES of this site are more stringent of cross-talk, was meant as me wanting YOU to participate (as I respect and enjoy your ES&H) in an environment of less bullshit, which is allowed on this page. Some took my proposal as running/ordering/moderating "Forum Talk". Thirdly, the very thing I was trying to be helpful to YOU about, (cross-talk, not related to alcoholism.) which got me in trouble with other members, you engaged in, IE: "...best wishes for all who recognize the Winter Solstice..." "...I just had to repair our heating system..." "Happy New Year All!" Etc; Etc. ##### There seems to be a bit of hypocrisy in play here. I really don't mind it, I just take offense, when I'm belittled for trying to help! Yes Chopper, after 18 years, I haven't learned to not let things "rent space in my head". God has blessed me with the ability to remember posts and things from past years. It may even be a curse! But, "For it is the doom of men, that they forget." Merlin.

Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.68.115
Date: 01/28/2007
Time: 04:36 PM

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Hi All; Warren, it is unfortunate that you equate a simple well wishing message with the type of religious debate that took up several screens of this forum, and which did not make any attempt at inclusion of all who participate in this forum. I have never said that the only discussion here was about AA topics, only that Respect should be encouraged, in order to include all who are in the "discussion." Although I am not a Christian, I often wish people the best of the season, out of Respect for them, just as I do notice the change that occurs, when the days begin to get longer (an issue of more importance here in the north). I have always tried to read all of what members of this forum have written, out of Respect, even when I do not have the ability to participate in the discussion. I do not limit my choices of subjects, not to bring up, only to specific religions, but also to politics, as I do not believe, personally, that these make good general subject matter, when they are not conducted in groups with a common interest. It is unfortunate that you, like me, do not have the benefit of regular attendance at face to face meetings, but the internet has the ability to reach people with a variety of interests. It is unfortunate that we do not have the benefit of some of the Old timers, who have since passed on, since they had the ability to share, on this forum, their ES&H in ways that encouraged participation from those who had a desire to work on their Sobriety, without alienating anybody due to their particular recognition of a "Power Greater than Themselves." I do hope that you will continue to participate in the forum, since you also have much to add. Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.118.203
Date: 01/28/2007
Time: 10:21 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – January 28 - 2007 - THE TREASURE OF THE PAST - Showing others who suffer how we were given help is the very thing, which makes life seem so worthwhile to us now. Cling to the thought that, in God’s hands, the dark, past is the greatest possession you have – the key to life and happiness for others. With it you can avert death and misery for them. - ALCOHOLICS Anonymous. p 124 - What a gift it is for me to realize that all those seemingly useless years were not wasted. The most degrading and humiliating experiences turn out to be the most powerful tools in helping others to recover. In knowing the depths of shame and despair, I can reach out with a loving and compassionate hand, and know that the grace of God is available to me. Oo- roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Robert T
Location: SA
Remote Name: 198.54.202.195
Date: 01/29/2007
Time: 01:15 AM

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Good Morning All Long time since I have posted, but do check in regularly, glad to see things have not changed, we all have perceptions, different ideas and experiences in life. What works for me here does not necessarily mean it will work for anybody else. I must admit to saying things yesterday myself, that are not relevant to my situation today. I believe that that should happen as I am on a path of growth, through my program and through life, and my opinions etc will also change and grow as I do, what was a priority for me yesterday, may not be today. The people that come into my life, bring messages and lessons for me to learn, sometimes I do not like the person or the lesson, but I find that it will continually happen until I have learn't the lesson, so I have to look outside my little comfort zone and life to get the lesson and hence the growth that comes with it. Another saying I believe in is this, yesterday is history, tomorrow a mystery, today is a gift, that is why it is called the present. I hope to be seen and judged by my actions of today, not yesterday or tomorrow, so today I will live and strive to be my best. Now on a lighter side, hope you all enjoy. I do as I am in the process of suing both my ex's, one for maintenance and the other for access to my baby son. Long live Bachelors Every man should get married some time; after all,happiness is not the only thing in life !! --Anonymous --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bachelors should be heavily taxed. It is not fair that some men should be happier than others. --Oscar Wilde ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't marry for money; you can borrow it cheaper. --Scottish Proverb ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't worry about terrorism. I was married for two years. --Sam Kinison ( i loved this one ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Men have a better time than women; for one thing, they marry later; for another thing, they die earlier. --H. L. Mencken --------------------------------------------------------------------- When a newly married couple smiles, everyone knows why. When a ten-year married couple smiles, everyone wonders why. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Love is blind but marriage is an eye-opener. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- When a man opens the door of his car for his wife, you can be sure of one thing: either the car is new or the wife. --------------------------------------------------------------------- I take my wife everywhere, but she keeps finding her way back to home always. --Anonymous ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I asked my wife, "Where do you want to go for our anniversary?" She said,"Somewhere I h! ave never been!" I told her, "How about the kitchen?" --Anonymous ------------------------------------------------------------------ We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops. ------------------------------------------------------------------- My wife was in beauty saloon for two hours. 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The Dog of course... at least he'll shut up after u let him in! --Anonymous --------------------------------------------------------------------- A man placed some flowers on the grave of his dearly parted mother and started back toward his car when his attention was diverted to another man kneeling at a grave. The man seemed to be praying with profound intensity and kept repeating, 'Why did u have to die? Why did you have to die?" The first man approached him and said, "Sir, I don't wish to interfere with your private grief, but this demonstration of pain in is more than I've ever seen before. For whom do you mourn so? Deeply? A child? A parent?"The mourner took a moment to collect himself, then replied "My wife's first husband." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A couple came upon a wishing well. The husband leaned over, made a wish and threw in a coin . The wife decided to make a wish, too. 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Firstname: Ric R
Location: Green Lake, Saskatchewan, Canada
Remote Name: 142.165.69.211
Date: 01/29/2007
Time: 09:14 AM

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Hi All; Good to "See" you again Robert! Thanks for adding some levity to the forum. Ric

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 01/29/2007
Time: 11:18 AM

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I have just about had it!!!! I was OK when Ric the pagan wished everybody a happy solstice, and I was OK when Serenity the evangelical wished us all a happy birth of the baby Jesus, and may I add that we Aztecs were going to have a parade of the virgin’s, but one of them was sick, and the other one wouldn’t do it all by her self. __________ But when Chopper suggested to Ric that he not mention our fearless leader “w’s” self declared war on some vaguely worded description of a tactic of guerrilla warfare, (terror) that was just over the top! And I quote…“Hope you enjoy Germany Ric just don't mention the "WAR" ok ha ha ha” _________ Just how long have you hated freedom Chopper? Don’t you know that to question “w’s” role as the “decider” is to let the terrorist win. If we don’t go halfway around the world and bomb poor brown people living in mud huts straight into the stone age, they will be over here molesting our wives and daughters before we know it. ________ On a lighter note Robert, I always heard it like this. “What is the difference between an alcoholic and a dog?” The dog quits wining once you let him in. _______ Warren, breath in and breath out my friend. None of us are going to live long enough for everybody to come around to our way of thinking, it is enough that we believe our position. My job is to let the other guy be given the same latitude. Let Baal, Allah, Buddha, Shiva, Jesus, whomever is running the show when we check out sort out the details. _______ “the only tenant inside your head living rent free” That is a good one Chopper. _______ Lily, kickin’ it back in Jamaica, that has gotta be sweet, Richard

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Firstname: Robert T
Location: SA
Remote Name: 198.54.202.195
Date: 01/29/2007
Time: 11:05 PM

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Good Morning All, Is there another war going on somewhere that I am not aware off, the tv reception in our brown huts is sometimes not so good, and as I am single at moment, I don't have a missus to send to stand on grass roof and turn arial to get better reception. Guess I will have to give up bachelorhood for a few days to get the news. _____Got an e-mail this am, which puts our country into context of where we are, is a sobering one and one which may explain why I can laugh at other things that some people prioritise in life. ____ So teken asb! PETITION TO PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI (PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA) TWENTY ONE THOUSAND (21 000) PEOPLE MURDERED IN SOUTH AFRICA DURING 2005 More people are murdered daily in the" Post Freedom Struggle" "Peaceful", Democratic", South Africa than any period during the so-called "Freedom Struggle* and/or the 17 years of international boycotts and sanctions against South Africa 5,000 people were killed on Sept 11, 2001 in America and the world "is at war". 21,000 people were murdered in South Africa last year, and the rest of the world turns a blind eye! An 8 month-old baby girl was raped to death by 5 men in Cape Town, South Africa, as they thought it would "cure their Aids". A 24 year-old pregnant woman was repeatedly raped in her home in Birch Acres, Kempton Park, South Africa on Monday, January 08, 01. A five-month pregnant woman, her husband and their five-year-old daughter were relaxing at home when four unknown men entered the house. The husband (32) was tied up and held at gunpoint while the suspects raped his wife in the dining room. The suspects then ransacked the house and took electrical appliances, household goods and clothing valued at about R20000. No arrests have been made. The gruesome list goes on and on . . . For once, this is a worthwhile message to pass on For my friend Jeremy Sutton who was murdered, leaving his 8-month pregnant wife, Trish, behind - and for all others who have been touched by crime. If Gary Teichmann can sign this so can all of us. One Sunday Times front-page headlines stated: STOP THIS HORROR Toddler sodomized to death. 2-year-old girl sodomized so brutally, her wounds shocked doctors. Her anus and rectum were so severely injured that medical staff could literally see 3cm inside her body. The rapist walks free after police corrupted her file. Dear Friends Chris Duncan here. I know a lot of you have received petitions like this before and many more like it. I also know that there is a serious problem in South Africa. I know a lot of you don't feel that there is much of a problem and refuse to be part of petitions to stop murder. I ask you now, please: If you refuse to do a simple thing like placing a name to a list in an attempt to bring it to the attention of your leaders, what are you doing that the rest of us don't know about to stop it? Even if it's to clear your conscience so that in a small way you can say you did something, it is worth it. What would it take for you to suddenly spring into action? Should your child, wife or husband need to be killed first? Please think about it and think perhaps it can help instead of "what good will it do?" Following the latest child killings in Cape Town, I hope Cape Tonians and South Africans in general are prepared to take a stand to stop all this crime. For our son Peter Marks who was brutally beaten to death leaving a young wife and son of eight months and devastated family behind and for all others who have been touched by crime. We also need the world to know that even the soccer world cup has to be given to another country. In no way can we afford that this prestigious event is held here. No, I repeat no security and no laws in this country. Forward this e-mail to all your friends and media abroad. The government of South Africa does nothing so we will do something great from our side._____So some people must please forgive me if I cannot understand their problems when this is what happens here. 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She showed up one night when telling > nobody she was coming and I thought she was a robber, so I hit her with > Boss's new Tiger Woods Limited Edition Nike Driver." > > > SILENCE................... , > > > LONG > SILENCE............................................................., > > > FINALLY ............, > > > "Philemon, if you broke that driver, you are in deep, deep sh*t!" > > Wishing for all an amazing day, may the sun shine on you all day, the wind be under your wings and stop and think just how lucky we are to be here and spare a thought for those less fortunate or different to our own beliefs and ideas.

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - January 29 - 2007 - THE JOY OF SHARING - Life will take on new meaning.To watch people recover, to see them help others,to see a fellowship grow up about you, to have a host of freinds - this is an experience youi must not miss. We know you will not want to miss it. Frequent contact with newcomers and with each other is the bright spot of our lives. ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p.89 - To know that each newcomer with whom I share has the opportunity to experience the relief that I have found in this Fellowship fills me with joy and gratitude. I feel that all the things described in A.A. will come to pass for them, as they have for me, if they seize the opportunity and embrace the program fully. Oo - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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G,day Ric My line to Ric {What ever you do just don’t mention the WAR} was taken in the jest of the “Falty towers” show guest star being Mr. Basil Falty {aka John Cleese aka Monty python fame. One of the shows has German guest’s staying at the hotel and between Manual the half-wit waiter and Mr.Falty they managed to upset the guests by performing the German goose walk and various other antics OO – roo Chopper

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My bad. It seems I had the wrong war, the wrong continent, the wrong century, and the wrong leader. The story of my life. Chopper, I was just trying to inject a bit of levity. ______ Ric, I think it was Stalin who said, “One death is a tragedy, but ten thousand deaths are merely a statistic. Like in this country, thousands die behind the wheels of automobiles every year, with barely a note of passing. But let an air liner crash with one or two hundred passengers, and it leads the news cycle for a week. It seems to be human nature. _______ I believe people are basically good. If we perceive no personal loss, we will do the descent thing just about every time. But we can hold some very perverted values and motives on occasion. And under the right set of circumstances, we can do the most vile and horrific things and feel quite justified in doing so. The grace of this higher power, like the rain, falls on the good as well as the bad. But like the rain, it floods one area and leaves another dry as a bone. Richard

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Hi All; Chopper- since we had to deal with the issues of WWII, in previous visits to Germany, that is what I had thought of, when you spoke of it. As I had lived in Germany, when I was young, as a child of a Canadian soldier, I have had the experience of seeing Germany, shortly after the devastation of war. I can see the good in the way that Germany has developed, since then and their country has many things that I really like, when visiting, like their approach to renewable energy. It is a very modern country, having learned from thier past, in ways that remind me of the opportunities that I have, to learn from my past and make a new trail, using experiences from my past to make the journey better. Robert- I can not imagine the daily life that you have to face, with such uncertainty in your country! I find it amazing that we can speak to each other, since we share a common bond. In spite of whatever happens, around us, we are Blessed to be able to share our personal Experience, Strength and Hope with each other, to help each of us deal with our common bond of Alcoholism. It is also very good that you can still make jokes and bring humour to us. Thank you! Love Ric

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Serenity, here is another for you, hope the Ladies on forum do not take offence, this is all in jest..."Why he is a batchelor" 1. When she asks how she looks, shrug and say "could be better" this will keep her on her toes, and girls love that..... 2. Never hold her hand. This can be interpreted as a sign of weakness or if she grabs your hand squeeze hers really, really hard until she cries. This will impress her by showing her what a strong man you are.)..... 3. Once a month sneak up on her from behind and knock her over. Girls are like dogs. They love to be roughed up..... 4. Call her in the middle of the night to ask if she's sleeping. If she is say "you better be", repeat this 4 or 5 times until morning. This will show her you care..... 5. When she is upset about something, suggest to her that it might be her fault. This will pave the way for her own personal improvement, and every girl needs some improvement...... 6. Recognize the small things, they usually mean the most. 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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - January 31 - 2003 OUR COMMON WELFARE COMES FIRST - The unity of Alcoholics Anonymous is the ego deflation process necessary to achieve and maintain sobriety in Alcoholic Anonymous.The First Tradition reminds me not to take credit, or authority, for my recovery. Placing our common welfare first reminds me not to become a healer in this program;I am still one of the patients. Self - effacing elders built the ward. Without it, I doubt I would be alive. Without the group, few alcoholics would recover. The active role in renewed surrender of will enables me to step aside from the need to dominate, the desire for recongnition, both of which played so great a part in my active alcoholism. Deferring my personal desires for the greater good of group growth contributes toward A.A.unity that is central to all recovery. It helps me to remember that the whole is greater than the sum of all its parts. Oo -roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - February 1 - 2007 - GOAL: SANITY - ". . .Step Two gently and very gradually began to infiltrate my life. I can't say upon what occasion or upon what day I came to beleive in a Power greater than myself, but I certainly have that belief now.." TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 27 "Came to believe!" I gave lip service to my belief when I felt like it or when I thought it would look good. I didn't really trust God.I didn't beleive He cared for me. I kept trying to change things I couldn't change. Gradually, in disgust, I began to turn it all over, saying: "You're so omnipotent, you take care of it." He did. I began to receive answers to my deepest problems, sometimes at the most unusual times: driving to work,eating lunch, or when I was sound asleep. I realized that I hadn't thought of those solutions - a Power greater than myself had given them to me. I came to believe. Oo - roo P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - Feb 2nd - 2007 - RESCUED BY SURRENDERING - Characteristic of the so-called typical alcoholic is a narcissistic egocentric core,dominated by feelings of omnipotence,intent on maintaining at all costs its inner integrity. . . Inwardly the alcoholic brooks no control from man or God. He, the alcoholic, is and must be the master of his destiny. He will fight to the end to perserve that postion. A.A. COMES OF AGE, p. 311 - The great mystery is "Why do some of us die alcoholic deaths, fighting to preserve the 'independence' of our ego, while others sem to sober up effortlessly in A.A.?" Help from a Higher Power, the gift of sobriety, came to me when an otherwise unexplained desire to stop drinking concided with my willingness to accept the suggestions of the men and women of A.A. I had to surrender, for only by reaching out to God and my fellows could I be rescued. Oo - roo Chopper P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - Feb 4 - 2007 - WHEN FAITH IS MISSING - Sometimes A.A.comes harder to those who have lost or rejected faith than to those who never had any faith at all,for they think they have tried faith and found it wanting. They have tried the way of faith and the way of no faith. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 28 - I was so sure God had failed me that I became ultimately defiant, though I knew better, and plunged into a final drinking binge. My faith turned bitter and that was no coincidence. Those who once had great faith hit bottom harder. It took time to rekindle my faith, though I came to A.A. I was grateful intellectually to have survived such a great fall,but my heart felt callous. Still I stuck with the A.A. program;the altenatives were too bleak! I kept coming back and gradually my faith was resurrected. Oo - roo Chopper P.S. 1 day at a time Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - Feb 3 - 2007 - FILLING THE VOID - We needed to ask ourselves but one short question. "Do I now believe, or am I even willing to believe, that there is a Power greater than myself?" As soon as a man can say that he does believe, or is willing to believe, we emphatically assure him that he is on his way. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 47 - I was always fascinated with the study of scientific principles. I was emotionally and physically distant from people while I pursued Absolute Knowledge. God and spirituality were meaningless academic exercises. I was a modern man of science,knowledge was my Higher Power. Given the right set of equations, life was merely another problem to solve. Yet my inner life self was dying from my outer man's solution to life's problems and the solution was alcohol. In spite of my intelligence, alcohol became my Higher Power. It was through the unconditional love which emanated from A.A. people and meetings that I was able to discard alcohol as my Higher Power. The great void was filled. I was no longer lonely and apart from life. I had found a true power greater than myself, I had found God's love. There is only one question which really matters to me now: God is in A.A. Oo - roo Chopper P.S. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 16 - 2007 - COMMITMENT - Understanding is the key to right principles and attitudes, and right action is the key to good living. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 125 - There came a time in my program of recovery when the third stanza of the Serenity Prayer -- "The wisdom to know the difference" -- became indelibly imprinted in my mind. From that time on, I had to face the ever-present knowledge that my every action, word and thought was within, or outside, the principles of the program. I could no longer hide behind self-rationalization, nor behind the insanity of my disease. The only course open to me, if I was to attain a joyous life for myself (and subsequently for those I love), was one in which I imposed on myself an effort of commitment, discipline, and responsibility. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time -Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 17 - 2007 - THE LOVE IN THEIR EYES - Some of us won't believe in God, others can't, and still others who do not believe that God exists have no faith whatever He will perform this miracle. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 25 - It was the changes I saw in the new people who came into the Fellowship that helped me lose my fear, and change my negative attitude to a positive one. I could see the love in their eyes and I was impressed by how much their "One Day at a Time" sobriety meant to them. They had looked squarely at Step Two and came to believe that a power greater than themselves was restoring them to sanity. That gave me faith in the Fellowship, and hope that it could work for me too. I found that God was a loving God, not that punishing God I feared before coming to A.A. I also found that He had been with me during all those times I had been in trouble before I came to A.A. I know today that He was the one who led me to A.A. and that I am a miracle. OO - roo Chopper 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 19 - 2007 - I'M NOT DIFFERENT - In the beginning, it was four whole years before A.A. brought permanent sobriety to even one alcoholic woman. Like the "high bottoms, " the women said they were different; . . . The Skid-Rower said he was different . . . so did the artists and the professional people, the rich, the poor, the religious, the agnostic, the Indians and the Eskimos, the veterans, and the prisoners. . . . nowadays all of these, and legions more, soberly talk about how very much alike all of us alcoholics are when we admit that the chips are finally down. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 24 - I cannot consider myself "different" in A.A.; if I do I isolate myself from others and from contact with my Higher Power. If I feel isolated in A.A., it is not something for which others are responsible. It is something I've created by feeling I'm "different" in some way. Today I practice being just another alcoholic in the worldwide Fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
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Date: 02/19/2007
Time: 10:59 PM

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Thanks for the poem Robert. So cute! I've been having problems with my pc again. Somebody set the security so good I couldn't even get online myself. Lotsa good that security is when I have to have my kids fix it for me anyway....Ha ha. We had a beautiful 3 day weekend here and the snow actually started to melt. I am not sure why I came here tonight, except to say those blue things will never keep me away!!! Thanks to all that share between the blues!!! Love ya, and God Bless! :o)Serenity

Firstname: Thunder
Location: Michigan
Remote Name: 68.43.93.164
Date: 02/20/2007
Time: 05:17 PM

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Hi I just wanted to say that this site is awesome. I happened upon it and it is wonderful to see the heartfelt interaction between fellow alcoholics. I would also like to say to the blue inconsiderates, may GOD lead you down a path so that the light may shine on you and enlighten you!

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.58.161
Date: 02/20/2007
Time: 07:24 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 20 - 2007 - THE GIFT OF LAUGHTER - At this juncture, his A.A. sponsor usually laughs. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 26 - Before my recovery from alcoholism began, laughter was one of the most painful sounds I knew. I never laughed and I felt that anyone else's laughter was directed at me! My self-pity and anger denied me the simplest of pleasures or lightness of heart. By the end of my drinking not even alcohol could provoke a drunken giggle in me. When my A.A. sponsor began to laugh and point out my self-pity and ego-feeding deceptions, I was annoyed and hurt, but it taught me to lighten up and focus on my recovery. I soon learned to laugh at myself and eventually I taught those I sponsor to laugh also. Every day I ask God to help me stop taking myself too seriously. OO - roo Chopper 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Robert T
Location: SA
Remote Name: 196.25.255.195
Date: 02/20/2007
Time: 10:14 PM

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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
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Date: 02/21/2007
Time: 02:59 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 22 - 2007 - I'M PART OF THE WHOLE - At once, I became a part--if only a tiny part--of a cosmos.... - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 225 - When I first came to A.A., I decided that "they" were very nice people--perhaps a little naive, a little too friendly, but basically decent, earnest people (with whom I had nothing in common). I saw "them" at meetings --after all, that was where "they" existed. I shook hands with "them" and, when I went out the door, I forgot about "them." Then one day my Higher Power, whom I did not then believe in, arranged to create a community project outside of A.A., but one which happened to involve many A.A. members. We worked together, I got to know "them" as people. I came to admire "them," even to like "them" and, in spite of myself, to enjoy "them." "Their" practice of the program in their daily lives--not just talk at meetings --attracted me and I wanted what they had. Suddenly the "they" became "we." I have not had a drink since. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Richard S.
Location: Central FL
Remote Name: 66.13.159.190
Date: 02/21/2007
Time: 09:17 AM

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Welcome Thunder, I’m with you on the blue meenies, and if they won’t let the light shine in their own lives, maybe they could just drag their brand of shadowworld somewhere else for a while. At any rate, glad to see you here. ##### Robert ... my mother used to tell me that "Shared grief is half the sorrow, but happiness when shared, is doubled" True enough, Richard

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
Remote Name: 63.230.142.15
Date: 02/21/2007
Time: 10:40 AM

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Nice. Very nice Robert! Welcome to the forum Thunder.... That's quite a name! My favorite part about storms is hearing the thunder...I used to tell my kids that was God reminding us He has All the Power! Maybe He can chace the blues away too! Good to see everyone. Weather here is so nice today it's almost like spring! But the snow all melted into my garage so I almost have to swim to get into my car! Quick! Somebody throw me a lifejacket please! Ha ha!!! God is good. Life is good. People are basically good. I'm seeing a councellor that has helped me see the reasons for my mistrust, and alot of other things. She's having me join 2 new groups for therapy. I might get so healthy I can actually stay sober this time around...A Day At A Time... of course. HUGS!!!! :o)Serenity

Firstname: Robert T
Location: SA
Remote Name: 196.25.255.195
Date: 02/22/2007
Time: 12:51 AM

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Good Morning all. I am in a good mood today, I get to see my baby son, his mum is only allowing me an hour a week, but am in the process of getting that changed, unfortunately it is going to get messy, I am already being accused of being violent etc, but it is something I just have to do....We are in the middle of a heat wave, it is lovely, I thrive in that kind of weather...With a couple celebrating their 50th anniversary at the church's marriage marathon, the minister asked Brother Ralph to take a few minutes and share some insight into how he managed to live with the same woman all these years. The husband replied to the audience, "Well, I treated her with respect, spent money on her, but mostly I took her travelling on special occasions. The minister inquired: "Trips to where?" "For our 25th anniversary, I took her to Beijing, China." The minister said, "What a terrific example you are to all husbands, Ralph. Please tell the audience what you're going to do for your wife on your 50th anniversary? Brother Ralph: "I'm going to fetch her.">>>>While I was watching the football game this weekend, My wife and I got into a conversation about life and death, and the need for living wills... During the course of the conversation I told her that I never wanted to exist in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and taking fluids from a bottle... She got up, unplugged the TV and threw out all my beer. Sometimes it's tough being married to a smart ass.>>> Wishing all an amazing day.

Firstname: Serenity
Location: Today
Remote Name: 63.230.142.15
Date: 02/22/2007
Time: 07:41 AM

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Heat wave huh? Gee after all that snow melted here it froze overnight so my garage door was frozen shut this morning, but I finally got it opened in time to get my kids to school...My Son is going on a ski trip today with his school, and pretty excited about it. & My Daughter is playing "Juliet" in a play for her English Lit class. Robert, I hope you enjoy every minute with that precious baby. I know if you keep doin God's will all things work together for good.... Even when we can't see the reasons we have to go through stuff, there's always a purpose, and somewhere down the line He shows us it was all a part of His bigger plan! :O) Keep Smiling! & Looking up! God Bless! :o)Serenity

Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.62.195
Date: 02/22/2007
Time: 08:18 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 22 - 2007 - GUIDANCE - ... this means a belief in a Creator who is all power, justice, and love; a God who intends for me a purpose, a meaning, and a destiny to grow, however... haltingly, toward His own likeness and image. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 51 - As I began to understand my own powerlessness and my dependence on God, as I understand Him, I began to see that there was a life which, if I could have it, I would have chosen for myself from the beginning. It is through the continuous work of the Steps and the life in the Fellowship that I've learned to see that there is truly a better way into which I am being guided. As I come to know more about God, I am able to trust His ways and His plans for the development of His character in me. Quickly or not so quickly, I grow toward His image and likeness. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!p.p.s. Welcome to the forum Thunder hope you hang around and stay.

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 23 - 2007 - MYSTERIOUS PARADOXES - Such is the paradox of A.A. regeneration: strength arising out of complete defeat and weakness, the loss of one's old life as a condition for finding a new one. - A.A. COMES OF AGE, p. 46 - What glorious mysteries paradoxes are! They do not compute, yet when recognized and accepted, they reaffirm something in the universe beyond human logic. When I face a fear, I am given courage; when I support a brother or sister, my capacity to love myself is increased; when I accept a pain as part of the growing experience of life, I realize a greater happiness; when I look at my dark side, I am brought into new light; when I accept my vulnerabilities and surrender to a Higher Power, I am graced with unforeseen strength. I stumbled through the doors of A.A. in disgrace, expecting nothing from life, and I have been given hope and dignity. Miraculously, the only way to keep the gifts of the program is to pass them on. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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Date: 02/23/2007
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Hi All; It's great to hear that Spring may come, someday! We've got storm watches all over, but we will go out to get more firewood today, so we will be prepared for anything. Rose has been here all week, since there is no school, so we've just been enjoying ourselves. Yesterday, while shopping in the next town, a younger man came over to me and announced that he has been Sober for a few weeks and is working very hard to replace the time he used to spend drinking on other positive things. To me, this shows that our way of Living is contagious! Hope more people catch it. Welcome to Thunder! Great to hear things are working out, Robert T! Thank you Serentity for letting me know what I have to look forward to, hopefully in the near future. Thank you all, for paying this very important 12th Step call, on me! Love Ric

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I got a chip on my shoulder as it were, I was at a meeting the other day, and as I set there come what may, what to my surprise and why tie tie did they pass that chip to me? Now I don't care if they get a chip or not, for however so much time they got, but to pass it to me to see just isn't worthy, with that I'll pass.

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 24 - 2007 - A THANKFUL HEART - I try to hold fast to the truth that a full and thankful heart cannot entertain great conceits. When brimming with gratitude, one's heartbeat must surely result in outgoing love, the finest emotion that we can ever know. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 37 - My sponsor told me that I should be a grateful alcoholic and always have "an attitude of gratitude"--that gratitude was the basic ingredient of humility, that humility was the basic ingredient of anonymity, and that "anonymity was the spiritual foundation of all our Traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities." As a result of his guidance, I start every morning on my knees, thanking God for three things: I'm alive, I'm sober, and I'm a member of Alcoholics Anonymous. Then I try to live an "attitude of gratitude" and thoroughly enjoy another twenty-four hours of the A.A. way of life. A.A. is not something I joined; it's something I live. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace! p.p.s Welcome to the forum David B hope you hang around and stay.

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Welcome David, Hope you will keep sharing. This is nice for meetings between meetings. George, I never cared to much for the emphasis put on chips and time too much either. But I think if it helps others see that it can be done it gives them hope that they too can achieve what at first feels impossible. When I first came to AA I couldn't imagine staying sober even 1 day much less a month, year, or accumulative years. I still don't like the cocky attitudes of some holier than thou's that like to flaunt how much time they have. But fortunately there are more old-timers with humility doing this thing God's way that led me to believe as long as I stay humble I too shall learn to trudge the road of happy destiny "One Day At A Time!" Bless You! :o)Serenity

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - Feb 25 - 2007 - THE CHALLENGE OF FAILURE - In God's economy, nothing is wasted. Through failure, we learn a lesson in humility which is probably needed, painful though it is. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 31 - How thankful I am today, to know that all my past failures were necessary for me to be where I am now. Through much pain came experience and, in suffering, I became obedient. When I sought God, as I understand Him, He shared His treasured gifts. Through experience and obedience, growth started, followed by gratitude. Yes, then came peace of mind-living in and sharing sobriety. Oo - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 26 - 2007 - NO ORDINARY SUCCESS STORY - A.A. is no success story in the ordinary sense of the word. It is a story of suffering transmuted, under grace, into spiritual progress. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 35 - Upon entering A.A. I listened to others talk about the reality of their drinking: loneliness, terror and pain. As I listened further, I soon heard a description of a very different kind--the reality of sobriety. It is a reality of freedom and happiness, of purpose and direction, and of serenity and peace with God, ourselves and others. By attending meetings, I am reintroduced to that reality, over and over. I see it in the eyes and hear it in the voices of those around me. By working the program I find the direction and strength with which to make it mine. The joy of A.A. is that this new reality is available to me. OO - roo Chopper p.s 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 27 - 2007 - A UNIQUE STABILITY - Where does A.A. get its direction? . . . These practical folk then read Tradition Two, and learn that the sole authority in A.A. is a loving God as He may express Himself in the group conscience. . . The elder statesman is the one who sees the wisdom of the group's decision, who holds no resentment over his reduced status, whose judgment, fortified by considerable experience, is sound, and who is willing to sit quietly on the sidelines patiently awaiting developments. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, pp. 132, 135 - Into the fabric of recovery from alcoholism are woven the Twelve Steps and the Twelve Traditions. As my recovery progressed, I realized that the new mantle was tailor made for me. The elders of the group gently offered suggestions when change seemed impossible. Everyone's shared experiences became the substance for treasured friendships. I know that the Fellowship is ready and equipped to aid each suffering alcoholic at all crossroads in life. In a world beset by many problems, I find this assurance a unique stability. I cherish the gift of sobriety. I offer my gratitude for the strength I receive in a Fellowship that truly exists for the good of all members. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - FEB 28 - 2007 - WHAT? NO PRESIDENT? - When told that our Society has no president having authority to govern it, no treasurer who can compel the payment of any dues. . . . our friends gasp and exclaim, "This simply can't be . . ." - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 132 - When I finally made my way to A.A., I could not believe that there was no treasurer to "compel the payment of dues." I could not imagine an organization that didn't require monetary contributions in return for a service. It was my first and, thus far, only experience with getting "something for nothing." Because I did not feel used or conned by those in A.A., I was able to approach the program free from bias and with an open mind. They wanted nothing from me. What could I lose? I thank God for the wisdom of the early founders who knew so well the alcoholic's disdain for being manipulated. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - March 1 - 2007 IT WORKS - It works-it really does. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 88 - When I got sober I initially had faith only in the program of Alcoholics Anonymous. Desperation and fear kept me sober (and maybe a caring and/or tough sponsor helped!). Faith in a Higher Power came much later. This faith came slowly at first, after I began listening to others share at meetings about their experiences-experiences that I had never faced sober, but that they were facing with strength from a Higher Power. Out of their sharing came hope that I too would-and could-"get" a Higher Power. In time, I learned that a Higher Power-a faith that works under all conditions-is possible. Today this faith, plus the honesty, openmindedness and willingness to work the Steps of the program, gives me the serenity that I seek. It works-it reallv does Oo-roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - MARCH 2 - 2007 - HOPE - Do not be discouraged. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 60 - Few experiences are of less value to me than fast sobriety. Too many times discouragement has been the bonus for unrealistic expectations, not to mention self-pity or fatigue from my wanting to change the world by the weekend. Discouragement is a warning signal that I may have wandered across the God line. The secret of fulfilling my potential is in acknowledging my limitations and believing that time is a gift, not a threat. Hope is the key that unlocks the door of discouragement. The program promises me that if I do not pick up the first drink today, I will always have hope. Having come to believe that I keep what I share, every time I encourage, I receive courage. It is with others that, with the grace of God and the Fellowship of A.A., I trudge the road of happy destiny. May I always remember that the power within me is far greater than any fear before me. May I always have patience, for I am on the right road. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - March 3 - 2007 OVERCOMING SELF-WILL - So our troubles, we think are basically of our own making. They arise out of ourselves, and the alco holic is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though he usually doesn't think so. Above everything, we alcoholics must be rid of this selfishness. We must, or it kills us! - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 62 - For so many years my life revolved solely around myself I was consumed with self in all forms-self cenferedness, self-pity, self-seeking, all of which stemmed from pride. Today I have been given the gift, through the Fellowship of Alcoholics Anony- mous, of practicing the Steps and Traditions in my daily life, of my group and sponsor, and the capac- ity-if I so choose-to put my pride aside in all situations which arise in my life. Until I could honestly look at myself and see that I was the problem in many situations and react ap- propriately inside and out; until I could discard my expectations and understand that my serenity was directly proportional to them, I could not experi ence serenity and sound sobriety. Oo -roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - March 4 - 2007 WEEDING THE GARDEN - The essence of all growth is a willingness to make a change for the better and then an unremitting will ingness to shoulder whatever responsibility this entails. - AS BILL SEES IT, p. 115 - By the time I had reached Step Three I had been freed of my dependence on alcohol, but bitter experience has shown me that continuous sobriety requires continuous effort. Every now and then I pause to take a good look at my progress. More and more of my garden is weeded each time I look, but each time I also find new weeds sprouting where I thought I had made my final pass with the blade. As I head back to get the newly sprouted weed (it's easier when they are young), I take a moment to admire how lush the growing vegetables and flowers are, and my labors are rewarded. My sobriety grows and bears fruit. Oo -roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time Peace!

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - MARCH 5 - 2007 - A LIFELONG TASK - "But just how, in these circumstances, does a fellow 'take it easy?' That's what I want to know." - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 26 - I was never known for my patience. How many times have I asked, "Why should I wait, when I can have it all right now?" Indeed, when I was first presented the Twelve Steps, I was like the proverbial "kid in a candy store." I couldn't wait to get to Step Twelve; it was surely just a few months' work, or so I thought! I realize now that living the Twelve Steps of A.A. is a lifelong undertaking. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Chopper
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Remote Name: 203.27.153.110
Date: 03/05/2007
Time: 11:22 PM

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DAILY – REFLECTIONS – MARCH 6 - 2007 - THE IDEA OF FAITH - Do not let any prejudice you may have against spiritual terms deter you from honestly asking yourself what they mean to you. - ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS, p. 47 - The idea of faith is a very large chunk to swallow when fear, doubt and anger abound in and around me. Sometimes just the idea of doing something different, something I am not accustomed to doing, can eventually become an act of faith if I do it regularly, and do it without debating whether it's the right thing to do. When a bad day comes along and everything is going wrong, a meeting or a talk with another drunk often distracts me just enough to persuade me that everything is not quite as impossible, as overwhelming as I had thought. In the same way, going to a meeting or talking to a fellow alcoholic are acts of faith; I believe I'm arresting my disease. These are ways I slowly move toward faith in a Higher Power. Oo – roo Chopper

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Date: 03/06/2007
Time: 02:53 PM

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Hi, Friends: Back for a few minutes after a long absence. I have had the CRUD (a sinus infection) - down on my back for over a month - - heavy antibiotics and - spending too much time alone - having too much time to "thin", self-pity kept a-knockin' at my door. I did manage 2 AA daytime meetings each week, but it has been SOOO cold - had yo forego my usual 8 PM group on Wednesday and Friday. Hope I am out of the woods healthwise now - am still weak and shaky. I had to write a check yesterday, and my signature looked like it did in the old days when I was drinking. Oh, well. I need to be grateful that I am no worse off. Thanks for hanging in there with the Daily Reflections, CHOPPER. HAPPY ST. PATRICK'S DAY TO ALL. Love and God Bless. Barb.

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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 58.163.139.73
Date: 03/07/2007
Time: 07:16 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - MARCH 7 - 2007 - THE KEY IS WILLINGNESS - Once we have placed the key of willingness in the lock and have the door ever so slightly open, we find that we can always open it some more. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 35 - The willingness to give up my pride and self-will to a Power greater than myself has proved to be the only ingredient absolutely necessary to solve all of my problems today. Even the smallest amount of willingness, if sincere, is sufficient to allow God to enter and take control over my problem, pain, or obsession. My level of comfort is in direct relation to the degree of willingness I possess at any given moment to give up my self-will, and allow God's will to be manifested in my life. With the key of willingness, my worries and fears are powerfully transformed into serenity. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

Firstname: Ken W
Location: Pasadena, CA
Remote Name: 216.220.208.117
Date: 03/07/2007
Time: 10:38 PM

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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 203.49.222.7
Date: 03/08/2007
Time: 02:22 AM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - MARCH 8 - 2007 - TURNING IT OVER - Every man and woman who has joined A.A. and intends to stick has, without realizing it, made a beginning on Step Three. Isn't it true that in all matters touching upon alcohol, each of them has decided to turn his or her life over to the care, protection, and guidance of Alcoholics Anonymous? . . . Any willing newcomer feels sure A.A. is the only safe harbor for the foundering vessel he has become. Now if this is not turning one's will and life over to a newfound Providence, then what is it? - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 35 - Submission to God was the first step to my recovery. I believe our Fellowship seeks a spirituality open to a new kinship with God. As I exert myself to follow the path of the Steps, I sense a freedom that gives me the ability to think for myself. My addiction confined me without any release and hindered my ability to be released from my self-confinement, but A.A. assures me of a way to go forward. Mutual sharing, concern and caring for others is our natural gift to each other and mine is strengthened as my attitude toward God changes. I learn to submit to God's will in my life, to have self-respect, and to keep both of these attitudes by giving away what I receive. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace! p.p.s. Gday,Ken W hope you like the forum.

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Date: 03/08/2007
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Firstname: Chopper
Location: Australia
Remote Name: 149.135.127.79
Date: 03/08/2007
Time: 11:38 PM

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DAILY - REFLECTIONS - MARCH 9 - 2007 - SURRENDERING SELF-WILL - Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to The care of God as we understood Him. - TWELVE STEPS AND TWELVE TRADITIONS, p. 34 - No matter how much one wishes to try, exactly how can One turn his own will and his own life over to the care Of whatever God he thinks there is? In my search for The answer to this question, I became aware of the Wisdom with which it was written: that this is a Two-part Step. I could see many times where I should Have died, or at least been injured, during my previous Style of living, and it never happened. Someone, or Something was looking after me. I choose to believe My life has always been in God's care. He alone controls The number of days I will be granted until physical Death. The matter of will (self-will or God's will) is The more difficult part of the Step for me. It is only When I have experienced enough emotional pain, through Failed attempts to fix myself, that I become willing To surrender to God's will for my life. Surrender is Like the calm after the storm. When my will is in line With God's will for me, there is peace within. OO - roo Chopper p.s. 1 day at a time - Peace!

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Date: 03/09/2007
Time: 05:45 PM

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